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Author:Joseph A. Lieberman Publisher:Citadel Studio:Citadel Manufacturer:Citadel Label:Citadel Languages: English (Original Language), English (Unknown), English (Published) Media: Paperback Edition: Rev Upd Number Of Items: 1 Pages: 384 Shipping Weight (lbs): 1.1 Dimensions (in): 9 x 6 x 1.2
Priceless September 1, 2008 1 out of 1 found this review helpful
Mr. Lieberman's books help to understand the unthinkable - the reasons why a disturbed teen's behavior was overlooked and signs of impending violence were missed. My husband was a victim of a school shooter on September 29, 2006. Mr. Lieberman's books give valuable insight as to how this can happen - that school shooters are master manipulators and are able to convince counselors, school staff, adminstrators and even law enforcement that they are not a threat. The making of a school shooter begins at home WITH THE PARENTS. Eric Hainstock (who murdered my husband) was referred time and time again by several different schools he attended for counseling, but his father would not allow it. He was afraid the County would remove Eric from his "home" and there would go his meal ticket (his ex-wife paid child support for Eric). Therefore the abuse continues and the teen becomes more and more out of touch with reality. Eric Hainstock never gave a thought to murdering his own worthless, abusive father, but instead shot my husband who was the very person trying the hardest to help him. Mr. Lieberman's books point out again and again how the shooters manipulate people to believe there is nothing wrong. I don't know how we will ever be able to prevent school shootings in the future when the parents and their disturbed child are so intent on hiding the fact that there is a problem. These children and their abusive parents should not be able to refuse counseling. The shooters ability to manipulate people is shown in Mr. MacDonald's review. He states that Mr. Lieberman arrives at the "erroneous conclusion that Kip Kinkel is a terroist, psychopath and sociopath". There is no question that Kip was all three of these. He was obviously very mentally disturbed, as are the rest of the school shooters to get to the point that taking up a gun and murdering innocent people is the only way they see to make themselves feel better. Mr. Lieberman's books help people to understand how these school shooters think so that hopefully we may be able to foresee a potentially dangerous individual and stop them before there is more bloodshed. Eric Hainstock told three of his friends that "he didn't think Mr. Klang would make it through Homecoming". He then brought two loaded guns to school the morning of Homecoming and used one to take my husband's life. Not a day goes by that I don't think about what might have been if just one of those kids had reported what Eric told them. If Mr. Lieberman's books contribute to preventing even one school shooting, then they are a priceless piece of work.
Important Information August 31, 2008 2 out of 2 found this review helpful
I work in a community library. We are always looking for books like this, that address community issues in clear, detailed language that will engage the public. Mr. Lieberman's book is a valuable asset for anyone wishing to understand and address such a grave community issue.
We Need to Know August 31, 2008 4 out of 4 found this review helpful
There has been an epedemic of school shootings in the recent past. Schools used to be safe havens where we could learn and study. Now when we enter a school we have to go through a security check and are constantly vigilent and in fear of being killed.
We need to know what has gone into creating the situation that we now face in our schools. In his book Joseph Lieberman presents a well researched and well documented yet readable book that gives the reader an inside look at what is happening in our schools to create situations that result in loss of life.
A "must" read for understanding this issue August 31, 2008 6 out of 6 found this review helpful
As a university adjunct professor, I researched many books about school shootings before I settled on Mr. Lieberman's book. I used the book for a college reading course -- with the intent of getting students involved in the subject matter and, thus, involved in reading. It has turned out to be an excellent choice.
This book weaves the story of a horrific act, which is played out all too often in our world today -- that of a troubled teen using violence to express what may be a personal or societal problem. This is story of Kip Kinkel -- but much more than that. Lieberman keeps you intrigued as the story of Kip unfolds among the questions that we all must ask ourselves: what makes a person kill his parents and school mates; what, in society, may play a role in forming the personality of the teen who kills; what are we doing to curb bullying at schools - which seems to play a big role in many shootings. These issues are springboards for discussion within ourselves and with others.
I would highly recommend this book for its style of writing (great writing) and content. Mr. Lieberman passes no judgement on Kip or the other shooters he profiles. Instead, he offers us insight and information and leaves the pondering to us.
I couldn't put the book down. Neither could my students.
Rehashing of "The Shooting Game" August 28, 2008 1 out of 12 found this review helpful
While I haven't read it yet I compared the sample "Table of Contents" with "The Shooting Game" and the first 17 chapters have identical titles in both books. The sample page called "The Table of Contents" only gives the names of chapers 1-17. I wonder if the Eighteenth Chapter might be called "Acceptable Murder"; the Nineteenth Chapter "Face Value"; the Twentieth chapter "Fame and Immortality" and if most of the remaining chapters have titles exactly the same as the titles of the chapters in Lieberman's "The Shooting Game: The Making of School Shooters"? It's my guess that at least most of the other chapters will have titles the same as in "The Shooting Game", which is (and I've read it six times) a trashing of Kip Kinkel, which it is, disguised as a serious study of the phenomenon of school shootings, which it isn't. I guess I'll have to read it to find out, although that will be an awful waste of $10.95. At least the "NEW" book has an index. "The Shooting Game" offers a so called analysis of all the school shootings up to the time of publication, which was, I think, March 2006, but the real purpose seems to be to use most of the other school shootings to draw "far fetched" similarities between them and Kip Kinkel, arriving at the erroneous conclusion that Kip Kinkel is a terroist, psychopath and sociopath.
The only useful suggestion Lieberman makes is the "brilliant" idea that the solution is for students to constantly be watching their fellow students for indications that they are about to go over the edge and on that basis alone, report them to "the authorities". That's casting a very wide net which inevitably will lead to paranoia and tension among students and possibly become the cause of more school shootings. Surely there are more productive, creative and less dangerous approaches to solving the problem of school shootings, such as changes in the gun control laws so that guns are not so readily available to children and adolescents and mentally unstable persons of all ages. What is the point to your average citizen having semi-automatic weapons? No self-respecting hunter would use them for hunting. What other use do they have for anybody but police and the military? Beats me!
I'll be back once I've read this wonderful "NEW" book, written by a man whose other books were about food and travel. Hardly qualification for the writing of two books about a very serious subject, and then giving lectures on the subject as an expert. A whole new career for Lieberman. 28.8.08
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